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due south writing blather

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exc: oh dear!
*points to text on icon above*

So, well, everything I wrote in this version of the cyoa (look, ride! I've got it right) has transpired can not tie with the tone of the coya. It's hard to write a [complicated] murder storyline in a fic that includes the Canadian Consulate's emergency generator [otherwise known as Turnbull on a modified bicycle/dynamo contraption]. Also, Welsh has worked out a way to abdicate all responsibility for the case. Fraser misinterprets as only Fraser can. Ray has transport issues.

So, rather than put it to waste it is going straight into the [equally stalled] due south episode simulator [which has coya elements but is a) funnier and b) as silly as canon 3) easier to write - I hope]*




*as if you hadn't noticed the emergency generator (above)
  • The beta'ing part of my brain just never shuts off -- hope you don't eventually get upset with me for that -- but since you pointed out to me by name the place where you do have "cyoa" I am mentioning that you also have it as "coya" in the same sentence and then again thereafter. Perhaps this is The Muse's way of telling you to invent a new phrase that goes with coya? Choose Only Your Adventure?

    <3 the "Turnbull-style" emergency generator!
    • Fraser ran into the basement, passing the super computer and Turnbull’s much-treasured motorcycle, and found the emergency generator. While other buildings might use a polluting gas or oil powered monstrosity, the Consulate generator was fully sustainable. At least, sustainable if you add enough warming bark tea or double-double.

      cyoa/coya

      [p.s. I don't know if you know but double double is coffee with double milk, double sugar - it's big in Canada]
      • Ha! Running the generator with bark tea or a double double! (And yep, I do know what a double double is. I'm almost as good with Canadiana as I am with Americana.)
        • well, I didn't *shrugs*

          Our town centre consists mostly of coffee shops and Turkish barbers. Oh, and betting shops. :-(
          • British English to American English...I'm wondering if what you call "betting shops" is what we call "off-track betting". Our town center (or "centre") is a mix of Mexican restaurants and grocery stores, Czech restaurants and grocery stores, Italian restaurants and grocery stores, two art galleries, one performance space, several bars and video-poker parlors, and sundry other mixed businesses.
  • Oh my!

    "off track betting* means that you can't make bets anywhere other than the venues for whatever the hell you are watching, right?

    Betting shops are where you can place bets on pretty much anything the operator is willing to put odds on. Horses are as classic as it gets - the Grand National and Ascot are the big ones. [Lots of people in workplaces hold their own sweepstakes - newspapers very kindly provide nice charts for this]. Anything regarding football (but these are getting weirder and more complex) and pretty much every other big sport event

    It's not limited to sport. The old classic is "will it snow christmas day?" [there is an official location for establishing whether or not the snow has fallen] but there are lots of weird and wonderful ones out there.

    Betting odds are set up by "bookies" working in betting shops.

    Short version: off track betting is very normal. Betting shops are normal and until some point the government ran their own bookies.

    Problem: the previous previous previous previous government [that's Tony Blair] thought relaxing betting rules would somehow be a good thing and maybe a couple more casinos would open up, provide jobs and make them feel smug. *sarcasm* Of course, the huge upswing in taxes had nothing whatsoever to do with it */sarcasm*

    Wonderfully, this actually gave the government so money.
    No-so-wonderfully, this blew up in their faces.

    So, first we got the big on-line casinos - these got the Wire Act amended to include internet stuff. This was obviously already a bad thing. So, in course, it led to worse things.

    [I'm going to explain the rest in another comment if you are interested]
    • Off-track betting (usually just referred to as OTB, and which since fandom makes me giggle because O T P) or what I think in British English is called off-course betting pertains only to betting on horse races and is the only legally sanctioned betting away from the actual racetrack. We don't have legal bet-on-anything shops and the profession of being a bookie for bet-on-anything gambling is an illegal profession. (We do, however, have "informal" workplace betting on American football in the form of "buying squares".)

      Yes, I'm interested in what else you might say on the subject.

      Edited at 2017-11-19 07:12 pm (UTC)
    • Well, on-line casinos weren't the first thing that happened.

      Firstly, adult-only arcades [fruit machines etc] started opening and offering free tea or coffee and naff prizes. Then you got online poker, online roulette, online anything that will take your money. Some lovely machine versions started showing up at bookies and offering the same dubious odds...

      Slightly later, bingo hall chains [which were in an epic decline - people of working age don't want an evening of soggy fish and chips and camp guys shouting "two-fat ladies 88!"] hit on a new idea: online bingo. Online bingo went viral - very viral - suddenly you had lots of younger people playing in the evenings and then any-time with apps... and websites came up with other fun things to play on the sites and fun little app games...

      I'm trying to describe two mostly parallel things here and I think it is getting scrambled - another comment time, methinks
      • Okay, lets try this again:

        Booking shops (aka betting shops) started including new things to do - there are more and more sporting events they will offer odds on and they like weird accumulator things. And then, they started offering the same on-line roulette etc games on what are called "fixed odds betting terminals" with the same high stakes available. Now, you didn't need a credit card to wager about £20/stake and you could spin about every minute. You really don't want to do the math on that. Because they took cash, it meant that people who can't get credit [i.e. are too poor, benefit-dependent, bad with money/drinks/drugs] could bet around £200/hour...

        ...it makes a lot of money. The number of bookies in town has at least doubled and there are an awful lot of them opening near deprived areas where cash is the only form of money you've got and your partner needs to feed the kids, and the gas meter key is running low...

        so far, we've got a lobby group (campaigners for fairer gambling), a very vauge governmental report, an industry standards group (we're stopping problem gamblers, they can set a limit on the machines and we're training employees...) and a lot of miffed individuals who would like a maximum stake in line with sodding fruit machines

        grrr... this is a topic that makes me very grr... I don't like this kind of exploitation and I think is massively epically wrong.
        • Okay I'm quitting with the gambling/betting thing.

          It just seems to have gone out of control and I am fed up with bingo adverts.
  • We get Polish supermarkets [grocery stores?], Turkish barbers, Eastern European supermarkets, a Chinese Cash and Carry, a stupid number of coffee/sandwich shops, ditto hair dressers, a large w h smith [books, stationary and newspapers] and a poundland. More betting shops / mini casino/things [I guess a bit like video poker places?] than we have turkish barbers

    We probably do better on take-out options: pizza, chinese, nepalese, fish and chips, kebabs, anything vaguely "british" and curry. We've just had our first Turkish restaurant open and another one is going to where the chinese-english-breakfast-buffet place was.
    • All this food talk is making me hungry! "Supermarket" here means a "grocery store" that is very big and that carries non-food items as well as food items.. Sounds like you have a good selection of what Americans would call "ethnic" foods.

      We also have what seems to me to be way too many hair dressers, but we have no Turkish barbers.

      Yes, a video poker place is like a mini-casino that has electronic games, a bar, and food (sometimes adjacent to a full-service restaurant).
      • It's dinner time here! Mum's bacon and leek tagliatelle thing.

        I think the barbers' are a result of beards getting cool again. Dosk's is very much like Prince Harry's (and that does extend to colour). On holiday: small Turkish child "why is your beard orange?"
        • Mmmm...bacon and leek tagliatelle sounds yummy! Here it's lunch-time and the SO and I are about to go out to our favorite Czech restaurant.

          On holiday where when dosk got the comment about the orange beard? (And in what part of England do you live?)

          Edited to add: lovely RayV icon. Did you make that?

          Edited at 2017-11-19 08:02 pm (UTC)
          • Yes, I made the icon - I have a couple of nice ray-v ones.

            Dalaman, Turkey - it's on the Mediterranean coast and nice for archaeology and wildlife and nice beaches (sometimes you can do all three at the same time) when we were there we discovered that beards get a lot of attention and are certainly not found on young men. Small children ask some odd questions but the guy who walked up to Dad and said how much he liked Dad's beard and that it had "charisma" and then asked if he could stroke it...

            The barber shop cut-throat shave is a big thing out there and pretty much a social thing - if there isn't a tea seller to loiter around, the barber seems to be the second choice (and probably better in the rain).

            I live in the very south east. It is good for seagulls. There are no bloody blue birds and I hate the bloody song as well [I work with tourists in "season" - it is a pain explaining that the only bird life wants to mug you for your fish and chips / ice-cream.]
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